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Saturday, July 26th

2 6
"For as long as i can remember Chenango County Board of Supervisors never wanted to increase pay for their work force yet every year they raised property taxes. Sold my house due to taxes reached $5,000.00 so left, good luck to you guys they are only after their own packets... Now more land, better house, happier neighborhood, much better lifestyle"
Woman from Outside Chenango

3 3
"We in Chenango county have our own border crisis. It's called UTICA"
Man from Oxford

4 4
"MFN, Friday, "want a pay raise, quit the union"...RIGHT...lol. the only "pay raise" that would result is no longer paying union dues. But, then hold on for dear life, as the "Master" freezes wages, no raises, and harassment starts. Ftr"
Woman from Sherburne

6 2
"Come on Ashley aren't there any posts other than this county crap. Believe me its a big turn off to have a Labor Union use the local Newspaper to air its grievances free of charge."
Man from Norwich

1 7
"IMHO, POTUS rankings in My lifetime: 1. Reagan (a GREAT leader) 2. G HW Bush (Compassionate,worked well with a liberal Congress) 3. G W Bush (GUTSY, Strong leader) 4. WJ Clinton (righted His wrongs- moved to center w/the Country) 5. J Carter (Compassionate,but misguided) 6. BH Obama (a gifted speaker WITH the Teleprompter)"
Man from New Berlin

3 4
"More Veggies being sold in the town parks. Man from Norwich: If there is something wrong with that, there's something wrong with you."
Woman from Preston

4 3
"Hate, fear and greed are social diseases. Descibes TeaParty conservatives. Get help!"
Man from Preston

1 6
"If Chenago county government has around 19 millions in surplus. How about spending some of it to improve the county roads. For instance county road 10. Repaved a small stretch and left the rest rough, blacktop breaking open and sink holes. I'm sure other roads are as bad also. Stop being so cheap."
Man from Norwich

Friday, July 25th

1 5
"The country is in the poop because of Obama. Get your facts straight. "
Man from Norwich

5 1
"So far, only one town supervisor candidate from New Berlin has made their intentions known on 30 seconds. She hasn't really conveyed many details. Are there others? I seriously doubt it. I doubt the New Berlin candidate is even serious. 30 seconds is nothing more than vents and rants from disgruntled workers. "
Man from Norwich

1 5
"I wanna live beneath the dirt Where I'd be free from push and shove Like all those swarming up above "
Man from Norwich

0 6
"WFNB Re:Why are there so many repeat or copied posts on here lately? Here is why, We are way under paid and too busy with working two to three jobs to be typing new stuff so in between jobs we just copy and paste. But I appreciate your curiosity,,,, "
Man from Otselic

0 6
"Superloaders? You shouldn't use the word super to describe the supervisors. They are just ordinary politicians getting paid to spend our tax money. It's my understanding that only a few of them have participated at all in contract negotiations, they are using our tax money to pay someone else to do it, something they should be doing themselves."
Man from Otselic

0 6
"I. Would gladly sign up to be a board of supervisor. I'd love to make $47K plus full benefits and 100% free health insurance from county and additional $7k and benefits from town just like the board chairman. "
Man from Otselic

0 6
"Chenango County Employees have earned the right to a fair contract"
Man from Otselic

0 6
"If the same mentality people continue to lead this County, good luck to this community... "
Man from Otselic

0 6
"Even a world class yogurt company is on the shaky ground in the Chenango County due to Super free loaders "
Man from Otselic

1 5
"The true measure of performance of the Chenango County Board of Supervisors would be: Taxes lowered, NONE. How many new stores, new businesses, or new factories in the Chen. Co., NONE. So I let you grade their work. Get your head out of the sand or their rear end,"
Man from Otselic

2 5
"Ed so how does it feel to be told what can and what can not make it on 30 seconds"
Woman from Otselic

1 6
"Why does the oxford PD even have a phone? They are never available when you need them, only there when you don't."
Man from Oxford

5 7
"I would expect there will be some interesting races for the upcoming town supervisor positions as there seems to be a bunch of people that think they coud do a much better job. I look forward to the "meet the candidate nights" to see exactly what and how they will make improvements. "
Man from Norwich

3 9
"When I started the job I was told that raises would be dependent on performance reviews (of which mine are excellent). Could thus be construed as a breach of contract? Hmm... could be easy money. Will be asking a laywer on the 'morrow, er Monday."
Man from Norwich

4 9
"Lets face it, the country is in the poop because of the government managers (local, state, federal) and the private sector bankers who failed to carry out their job duties correctly, not the peons who are scraping a living between min. wage and a fair wage."
Man from Norwich

4 8
"So many negative judgmental people with nasty attitudes on the site. And one might think by reading their comments, they've walked miles in ever other person's shoes. "
Man from Norwich

10 9
"Why can't raises be given only to the county employees who deserve a raise? Why do they all need a raise?"
Woman from Oxford

3 13
"I. Would gladly sign up to be a board of supervisor. I'd love to make $47K from county and additional $7k from town just like the board president. What a joke..."
Man from Norwich

6 10
"If you are not part of the union, they still take the fees out, so might as well be a part of it and have a say."
Woman from Sherburne

9 6
""Why are there so many repeat or copied posts on here lately?" I assume someone thinks they are getting their point through. They aren't. They are simply annoying."
Woman from New Berlin

6 11
"WfN, If county employees are receiving aid from Social Services, it's because they have too many kids. You can make over 40K a year and still get benefits if you are not smart enough to quit having kids. So, again, they are milking the taxpayers."
Woman from Norwich

6 10
" I'd rather give my employee money than benefits. I let them purchase their own insurance. I don't force my company insurance on them." good luck with that lol!"
Man from Smithville

6 10
"Hey guess what. The county union needs some more turkeys to join. Not all union wages are the same. If you don't like the pay, quit and go someplace else. I'm sure the county can find someone else that will appreciate the pay and benefits."
Woman from Sherburne

7 9
"Why all the complaining about the low wages & benefits at your job? Didn't you know what your pay would be and the benefits you would receive when you accepted the job? Most sane people would be aware of that when deciding on accepting a job offer. Just saying."
Man from New Berlin

2 12
"Ok, lets try for the third time third time is a charm... performance..."
Man from Norwich

3 10
"To WFN, most County employees don't make $34,000 a year, only Supervisory staff or Public Health nurses and they have there own unit. The Sheriff's CO's and new Deputies are not in that bracket either. More like 10-12 for CSEA. "
Man from North Norwich

12 4
"Salaries for all county employees are shown in the budget which is readily available online at the county website."
Man from Norwich

5 12
"If the Chenango County employees make so much and have great benefits, why is it that so many of them qualify and are receiving Food Stamps and Medicaid? Shame shame shame..."
Woman from Norwich

6 12
"Chenango County Board of Supervisors are not creating or sending a good picture about our community/County.""
Man from Norwich

7 9
"WFN Everyone pays for their own health insurance. It's part of your pay! Ant money & benefits you get from your employer is taxable. I'd rather give my employee money than benefits. I let them purchase their own insurance. I don't force my company insurance on them."
Man from Norwich

3 13
"Man from sherburne- asking what is a fair wage. 3% increase would be fair and stop taking the only few perks that we have left. Employees hired after 1993 even have to pay for their health insurance, and now they are a majority so we are responsible taxpayers. No greed just have to be able to support our families with earned income. Thank you "
Woman from Norwich

5 9
""Not everyone can work in government. 2. People don't choose to have low pay & no benefits" - So everyone should lower their standards b/c some people in the private sector don't have what they have? That's wanting them to compete in your race to the bottom. "
Man from Norwich

7 7
"If the County Employee owns land or a house they are paying into the County for taxes, even if they rent I'm sure that money goes toward the taxes. "
Man from Oxford

10 4
"Why are there so many repeat or copied posts on here lately?"
Man from Oxford

10 6
"Let the Evening Sun post the salaries of the county workers and a list of benefits.(not hear say) Then people can make a determination of what is fair. It is public information because they work for the public."
Woman from Sherburne

10 7
"$16.50 an hour plus benefits, adds up to about $24.00. Stop complaining. Teachers with a Masters don't even make that."
Woman from Norwich

5 12
"OK enough about the county leaders. They are doing a exceptional job of holding down the cost. That is their job. I myself feel that we don't need unions. We need people that want to work. If you don't like your pay and benefits, go find another job. Want a pay raise? quit the union. "
Man from Norwich

5 9
"As we see more and more dollar stores "junk products" More Veggies being sold in the town parks. We can now see the visions of 3 world countries. Right here in our own back yard. Where is Norwich's Flea market being located."
Man from Norwich

Thursday, July 24th

10 5
"Asking for a raise and then repeatedly insulting the people that can do that on a public forum is just about the dumbest thing I can think if doing. The handful of fools on here posting like children are doing your coworkers a serious disservice. The tip is free of charge."
Man from Smithville

4 7
""Down with Disease""
Man from Norwich

4 8
"I do not believe that we have very many Town Supervisors,Department Heads who could do the jobs that the County Employees do. I would also like to see the town supervisors and department heads trade the pay they receive with a union worker and see if they could make it on what little a union worker makes."
Woman from Norwich

9 6
"Man from sherburne- asking what is a fair wage. 3% increase would be fair and stop taking the only few perks that we have left. Employees hired after 1993 even have to pay for their health insurance, and now they are a majority so we are responsible taxpayers. No greed just have to be able to support our families with earned income. Thank you"
Woman from Norwich

4 10
"Chenango County Employees have earned the right to a fair contract"
Man from Norwich

5 7
"Yes you are right Man from Oxford "....contributing to the economy, NOT generating income!" I though that generating income and contributing to the economy were almost the same thing. I do know that it is all good for the area."
Man from Norwich

3 10
"You might not like the county board, and county employees might deserve a raise, but I don't think it's fair to say the County Board has done "nothing." They have done hmmmm let me think... You are right NOTHING. Sorry my bad"
Woman from Norwich

4 2
"Editor: where is the best place to find info on concerts in the downtown parks? Thank you! Keep up the good work."
Man from Norwich

6 2
"I never thought I'd say it, but I kind of miss all the anti-Obama posts. These county supervisor posts are lame. I highly doubt the contract negotiations will spur any exciting elections in 2015. Once the contract is settled everyone will forget the drama and go back to sleep. "
Man from Norwich

4 9
"You might not like the county board, and county employees might deserve a raise, but I don't think it's fair to say the County Board has done "nothing." They have done hmmmm let me think... You are right NOTHING. Sorry my bad"
Woman from Norwich

2 9
"Down with the Chenango County Board of Super free loaders...."
Woman from Norwich

2 11
"All I know, Chenango County Board of Supervisors are not creating or sending a good picture about our community/County."
Man from Norwich

3 9
"Who enjoys the best benefits in County Government. Not the rank file employees, the department heads and non union staff along with the supervisors, Lower co-pays better coverage"
Man from Norwich

3 9
"If the Chenango County employees make so much and have great benefits, why is it that so many of them apply and are receiving Food Stamps and Medicaid? Shame shame shame"
Woman from Norwich

3 10
"Chenango County Employees have earned the right to a fair contract"
Man from Norwich

7 6
"MfS for my job I would consider a fair wage to be $45k."
Man from Norwich

5 8
"RE:Just b/c you choose to work in the private sector w/ no benefits doesn't mean everyone else should lower their standards. 1.Not everyone can work in government. 2. People don't choose to have low pay & no benefits. Employers are cutting both. 3. You're next."
Man from Sherburne

8 7
"When a person gets a paycheck they purchase and pay others for their products and services, and then that person/business spends that on other services/products, and so on. So what happens if the paychecks stop? "
Man from Norwich

7 6
"Apparently some county employees see the money that was taxed out of the private sector but not completely wasted by the government as "income". That "income", in their eyes, should be shared by employees! LOL! Good luck! That doesn't happen in the private sector either!"
Man from Sherburne

11 5
"Man from sherburne- asking what is a fair wage. 3% increase would be fair and stop taking the few perks that we have left."
Man from Oxford

5 10
"Boy you sure are a simple bunch!! Please explain how any part of government creates income! Government runs on tax dollars." - Eliminate all, or even many, civil service job (just what the corporate master want) and see which direction the economy heads. "
Man from Norwich

7 8
"contributing to the economy, NOT generating income!" - Monetarily contributing to the economy is generating business's income. "
Man from Norwich

9 5
""I'll try once more, county employees what do you consider a fair wage?" - methinks it should be at least the same percentage increase that the cost of living has raised since the last contract. "
Man from Norwich

5 6
"FACT: The OAS is an Inter-Continental organization founded on April 30, 1948, for the purpose of regional solidarity and cooperation among its member states. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., United States; The OAS's members are the 35 Independent States of the Americas."
Man from Oxford

7 8
""All I know, Chenango County Board of Supervisors are not creating or sending a good picture about our community/County." It's the whining employees who are creating the bad image with their endless posts and signs all over the county. It's not attractive at all."
Man from New Berlin

4 10
"I know several county "rank and file" employees that retired at 55, collect more money than when they were working - for life - and have full healthcare - for life! I think that's a pretty good deal."
Man from Sherburne

4 8
"OAS...Organization of AMERICAN States includes several American States not JUST the United States: So, NO, we are not the only nation that can claim to be Americans in spite of what intellectually handicapped people would prefer to hear Canadians & Mexicans ARE Americans."
Man from Oxford

9 9
"I'll try once more, county employees what do you consider a fair wage?"
Man from Sherburne

10 8
"Boy you sure are a simple bunch!! Please explain how any part of government creates income! Government runs on tax dollars.. County employees taking credit for the surplus is a joke! We all spend money locally! Such a weak and simple argument."
Man from Norwich

8 7
""By all the thumbs down to responses concerning the Board of Supervisors, one would assume at least they read 30 seconds." or possibly that everyone here just finds the childish posts nauseating. Grow up babies and stop shooting yourselves in the feet"
Man from Smithville

9 7
"Yeah, eliminate the county workforce and see how many businesses lose revenue. Some of you aim to shoot yourself in the foot. "
Man from Norwich

6 8
"Woman from Smyrna: I don't know all of them but I do know that at least 3 of the Supervisors have or had their own business that started on a shoestring with no benefits, only liabilities, when they started. They worked VERY long days and hired employees. They generated income."
Woman from Sherburne

4 8
""what it's like to work in private sector with no benefits or free health insurance" Sour grapes. Just b/c you choose to work in the private sector w/ no benefits doesn't mean everyone else should lower their standards. What health insurance is "free"? Money is deducted from every paycheck for health insurance. "
Man from Norwich

5 8
"Who enjoys the best benefits in County Government. Not the rank file employees, the department heads and non union staff along with the supervisors, Lower co-pays better coverage" So what's the point of belonging to the union? "
Man from New Berlin

11 4
"In 2015, Chenango County DA election don't forget to vote....."
Man from Norwich

6 8
"All I know, Chenango County Board of Supervisors are not creating or sending a good picture about our community/County. "
Man from Norwich

3 10
"Chenango County Superloaders I know you would like to have non experienced workforce so that you can steal $19 Million Surplus. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN so stop dreaming. Lower property taxes and pay your workforce fair wages that is what you should be doing. As this is the only County with such a surplus."
Man from Norwich

2 10
" I would never work for the Chenango County. I have a four year degree yet they wanted me to start at $16.50 an hour. Their job requirements are so high yet their pay low and nowhere near private sector. No thank you Now with private company my salary is 57K"
Woman from Norwich

5 10
"Who enjoys the best benefits in County Government. Not the rank file employees, the department heads and non union staff along with the supervisors, Lower co-pays better coverage."
Man from Norwich

2 10
"Superloaders? You shouldn't use the word super to describe the supervisors. They are just ordinary politicians getting paid to spend our tax money. It's my understanding that only a few of them have participated at all in contract negotiations, they are using our tax money to pay someone else to do it, something they should be doing themselves."
Man from Norwich

6 10
"Chenango County Employees have earned the right to a fair contract. "
Man from Norwich

4 10
"If the Chenango County employees make so much and have great benefits, why is it that so many of them apply and are receiving Food Stamps and Medicaid? Shame shame shame"
Woman from Norwich

5 8
"Most supervisors, make over $20,000 a year between pay and benefits. I have worked with more than (two) over the years and I can count on 1 hand the number that earned their money. When you have little knowledge of the job micromanage."
Man from North Norwich

4 8
"By all the thumbs down to responses concerning the Board of Supervisors, one would assume at least they read 30 seconds. That still does not justify the expense. County pay, town or city pay plus money for the committees they attend."
Man from North Norwich

8 7
"Woman from sherburne who thinks county supervisors jobs are so hard. I'd love to give it a try.... I'm sure there will be others on 2015 ballot with me after this display of lack of support for their employees by the board of supervisors. All towns should give the people options by making sure multiple people run on 2015 ballot."
Woman from New Berlin

11 4
"Re:"County employees do not generate income. I do not get it. If you spend your pay locally, is that not generating income for the area? Man from Norwich"...That is contributing to the economy, NOT generating income! "
Man from Oxford

6 8
"Re:"Fat cat supervisors act like they know what it's like to work in private sector with no benefits or free health insurance. That's hilarious. Actually it's sad how out of touch they are."...MUCH like the members of CONGRESS (both houses, both parties)!"
Man from Oxford

4 9
"Fat cat supervisors act like they know what it's like to work in private sector with no benefits or free health insurance. That's hilarious. Actually it's sad how out of touch they are. "
Woman from Smyrna

4 10
"Man from Norwich who thinks county employees don't generate income. You wouldn't be able to attend your so important board meeting once a month which generates all the income in this community right? So essentially I generate that income too. Can't wait for 2015 to vote!"
Man from Norwich

6 9
"Here we go again bashing the little people that toil in the cubicles at DSS! And I am not one of the supposed loud mouths hiding in anonymity! "
Man from Sherburne

4 6
"Waterway Guide. I read about this new publication yesterday and wanted to get a copy. I searched every organization's web page involved with this publication as per the article and could not find any mention of it. I did a searched on the exact title and again nothing. How do I get a copy ?"
Man from Outside Chenango
Try giving the Cornell Cooperative Extension a call: (607) 334-5841
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11 7
"I am so sick of hearing some of you citizens spouting that the Town Supervisors only work one day a month. If its so easy why don't you do the job? They may have a meeting once a month but they do a lot more. No, I am not one, nor am I married to one but I know a couple and they are dedicated public servants."
Woman from Sherburne

3 12
"Who enjoys the best benefits in County Government. WFN I venture to say it's all county employees. Can't be the taxpayer, that's a fact. I say let's get rid of the county system and let each town handle the situation. Times they need a changing."
Man from Sherburne

11 3
"Nice job North Norwich road crew on the road patching and ditch improvement! Thank you!"
Woman from Norwich

4 12
""Again you DO NOT GENERATE INCOME!!" They most certainly do. Aside from being public employees, they are paying consumers of products and services sold by profit making businesses. And please stop yelling. "
Man from Norwich

2 10
"Up on a Hill Somewhere in Sherburne Lives a Man Who controls your Mind How can this Guy Get out of Jail All of the Time."
Woman from Sherburne

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