Will Guilford voters be satisfied with third building project?

GUILFORD – The new town hall and highway garage proposal has been trimmed by nearly $1 million and won’t raise taxes, one Guilford official says, but will that be enough to satisfy voters come Nov. 6?

In less than two years the project has been revised twice and voted down twice, but that doesn’t lessen the need for the new facilities, says town councilman Bruce Winsor.

A public hearing on the building proposal is scheduled for 7 p.m. on Monday, Oct. 22 at the Guilford Town Hall. A second hearing will also be held at 7 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 25 at the Mt. Upton Fire House.

The proposition was last defeated Nov. 7, 2006, by a vote of 364 to 280. Winsor says 249 other voters went into the booth that day, but failed to pull the lever.



“We need this building project. We’re outgrowing what we have, and what we have isn’t safe. We have a building that is falling down,” Winsor said. He compared the situation to owning a home: “It’s like when you have a house; you have to keep it up. You have to make repairs.”

The town is proposing to build a 4,000 square foot town hall and a 15,300 square foot highway garage at a cost that won’t exceed $1.65 million.

The new facilities would replace the 6,495 square foot building on 125 Marble Road that houses the town’s offices, court and highway equipment.

The current town building has been under review since 1993, and has fallen further into disrepair in recent years, Building Project Committee members say.

“Even with the many repairs made over these years, the buildings have deteriorated to the point that they need to be replaced,” reads a pamphlet the committee is sending to all registered town voters prior to the Nov. 6 vote. “Changes in building codes and administrative requirements further necessitate that the new buildings be both physically larger and more advanced in function. The new buildings will consolidate town services, be more energy efficient, easier to access by the public, and provide a safer work environment for town employees.”

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6 comments on this story

October 17th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Becky...I agree 110 percent but when they were asked if this was factored in at the last meeting they beat around the bush telling us they had not done the calculations on the other expenses...this 1,650,000 is just for the buildings, the landscaping and work by the town guys is not even added in. Who is going to pay the town workers the overtime to dig the wells, septics, driveways, blacktop? All this for a town of 3,046 people that have a median income of $42,000.
Becky0001
October 17th, 2007 at 8:38 am
I see this project and the public's concerns over the cost a great example of what is wrong with this area. The governments in this area are not a functional part of the Community. By this I am stating that the governments are a yoke the necks of the people, giving far less services and not enhancing the aesthetic and equitable values in their respective communities. Every time a project is offered, the people all groan the same remark: "how much will this cost me?". There is no relief in sight in terms of seeing taxes rise, and rise, and rise. The people who are elected to run these communities are not connected with anybody in town. They are in their ivory towers, deciding what they will do, and they just push it past the voters.
My biggest objection to the Twonhall/Garage project is the size of the Buldings. The garage is over a 1/3rd of an acre inside!!!!!!! That is 65% of the inside area of the interior of Price Chopper. And you know they will want to heat the whole thing. That will bankrupt the town. My simple estimations show that heating the garage will cost $30K per year!. That is obscene. Add the lighting, and you will get an electric bill increase of at least $200 per month for the necessary lighting fixtures to illuminate the area involved. There will be room to park thirty-three (33) 40 foot long trucks with 4 feet clearance on each side. I had no idea the Town of Guilford had 33 trucks or pieces of equipment that needs to be inside. If you do the math, and figure a plow truck with its plow installed, with a sander will be about 34 feet long. Add 4 foot on each side and 3 feet front and back, you get 40' long. Then divide that into 16,000 and you get 33, or there abouts. That is huge, I mean huge. This garage is larger than Benedicts, or Christmans service garages. Why does Guilford need such a huge building?
The town hall is 4000 sq ft. My house is 1100 sq ft, and is big enough for family of 4 at least. That makes the building 64' square, or 40 deep and 100 feet long. That is huge!!!!!!!!!! Then heat that monstrosity, and it going to cost at least $8000 per year. I had no idea Guilford had so many staff that need an office and meeting rooms and everything else.
My point is, this whole project is twice as big as it needs to be to be functional, and adequate for the town. I will be at the meetings to ask the questions that have been curiously left out of the proposals for the project. How much will it cost over what we are paying per year to use what we have. Often times, it is not the initial cost of a project that is a problem, it is the increased expenses you have to pay to support it that hurts the most.
issylu
October 17th, 2007 at 6:40 am
How come some people have to put in their user names for comments on the news stories and others don't? If I have to tell if I'm male or female on 30 sec. then why won't you put names on here? Maybe because it's the same one who is always knocking what Guilford does??
October 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Hello people, first of all the town has been promising to sell the land since they bought it 4 years ago, and not one piece has been sold, not even to the fire department, lies, lies and more lies,this building won't raise taxes??? and what generous person is going to pay for it? The way I understand it, they are going to secure a bond to build this Taj Mahal, 4000 sq. ft. for the town hall and 15,600 for the garage. So now who is going to pay the investors of the bond the interest they deserve and pay back the principal? Over a 25 year period??? It states it will cost $135,000 a year for 25 years, in my book that is approx $3,375,000 we will be paying for this building. Someone should use the Freedom of Information and act request a break down of the expenses incurred by the Marble house, it's a lot more than the $1 a year we recive, if we receive it???
issylu
October 16th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
I don't think the town will make out to bad on selling the left over land!! You know the one thing there is never going to be any more of is land.
odo13780
October 16th, 2007 at 10:43 am
They say it will not raise taxes. I for one don't believe it.
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