The Gangs of Norwich

[mallen]

Gangs aren't stationed in Norwich. We don't have gang wars. The kids that think they are crips, bloods, latin kings, etc around here are posers. They would not survive in the real gang populated areas. As for the drugs around here, you'd be surprised to know that most of the drug dealers in this area are private dealers. They grow, produce, & sell their own drugs. Could you possibly share with us why you would think the gangs are filtering drugs through here? Cause I'd seriously like to know if they are. I however, do not believe this to be true, since most of the drugs distributed around here are connected more to private dealers & other associations.

[odon11]

I think most of the drugs here come from Binghamton and Utica dealers. People from this area go there to get drugs and bring it back to distribute. The cocaine is from the city, and it's working class drug dealers who have it, not the gangs.

[Theman]

About 2 years ago as part of my job, I had to do a training on gangs. The training was done in Broome County by State Troopers as well as the gang task force in Broome County. We discussed gang colors, signs, tattoos, etc. First, yes there are gang members in Norwich and Chenango County. Are there turf wars between the bloods and the crip no, so there are no shoot outs on broad street, however, there are gang members in Norwich, I believe they are crips. Also remember gangs are not just street gangs, a gang can also be a small group of skinheads or a motorcycle gang, which both are in Chenango County.

I know its nice to believe that part of the world does not creep into our little neck of the world but let's not be closed to the idea that it is possible. Remember we live between two struggeling economic cities, Utica and Binghamton both which have known gang and drug issues of thier own, its hard to believe some of that has not trickled into the the largest city between the two. Finally, yes there are alot of dealers that grow thier own product and see, however, they're not making thier own cocaine, crack and heroin and before you say anything yes all three do exist in Chenango County.

[patmlaw]

Gangs don't have cocaine?? They seem to have everything else. The gangs are more widespread than people realize. They control the prositution, drugs, and anything else that's illegal. I'm not talking about just the Cripps and the Bloods. There are several gangs in the US. If they were all to unite as one front, the problem would be very hard to control.

As far as the kids of Chenango being in gangs....no way. I didn't believe that when I read it. They get all that stuff from the media.

[NEWUSER]

The school send home notes last year about gang activity in the area. These kids may not be in one as organized as the big cities, but if they band together, and call themselves a gang, that is what they are.

There was a Meth lab busted in Edmeston not more than two years ago. If you think it isn't done around here, you are sadly mistaken. (for those who might not know, Edmeston is over the hill from Chenango County, not even 4 miles for some of us)

[patmlaw]

Just for a minute, think outside the box. Not all gang members are black or kids. There are quite a few who do not even advertise the fact they are part of a gang.

I also had to take training on gangs. They infiltrate smaller towns in order to get a foothold before the rival gangs get it.

The police's definition of a gang is: a group of individuals, juvenile and or adult, who associate on a continuous basis, form an allegiance for a common purpose, and are involved in delinquent or criminal activity.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/4111/nogangs.html

[odon11]

The school send home notes last year about gang activity in the area. These kids may not be in one as organized as the big cities, but if they band together, and call themselves a gang, that is what they are.

There was a Meth lab busted in Edmeston not more than two years ago. If you think it isn't done around here, you are sadly mistaken. (for those who might not know, Edmeston is over the hill from Chenango County, not even 4 miles for some of us)

Meth is everywhere around here, in every little town and in the remote areas. But it's not gang related.

[djfreeze]

If you don't think gangs have anything to do with Chenango County, get your head out of the sand. They may not live there, but where do you think all the drugs are coming from?

Hummmm Mexico? Please give me an F'n break. gangs are the reason for out drug problems? bull crap, check your local back yards. Oh and how about some of the cops that make a bust then turn around and sell it back to the damn kids and have a hit with them. we had a cop like that right here in sherburne. Gangs are not the only groups that bring the drugs in. i could rattel of a list of people just in sherburne that grow, cook, mix, you name it. I don't consider a back hard hillbilly growing his cheebaa to be a GANG MEMBER. yeah there is other crap coming in from other places but there is alot right in our back yards so don't blame everything on one group.

PS there are NO real gangs in Chenango county. Not the ones you people see on TV. take a trip to Atlanta some time, or Orlando, or even Milwaukee and i'll show you what gangs are. This county would not know how to handle a real gang.

[patmlaw]

Believe what you will. If the New York State Police believe there are gang members living in your community, you might want to think about it. They keep pretty good track of them.

[ccnative]

I think there are probably some gang members in the area. I don't think they are as visible or organized as they are in larger cities because they would be too noticeable. I also think that there are probably a lot of local kids who think they are affiliated, or desire to be affiliated with these gang members and that is where the impression comes from that there are no gangs here.

I have no evidence of this. This is just gut instinct talking. I think Norwich is a prime target for gangs due to it's relative isolation from surrounding cities, poor economy, and lack of things for teens to do.

[awesome]

I am a gangster, and I live in Norwich. Now, the useless argument has been solved.

[NEWUSER]

I think there are probably some gang members in the area. I don't think they are as visible or organized as they are in larger cities because they would be too noticeable. I also think that there are probably a lot of local kids who think they are affiliated, or desire to be affiliated with these gang members and that is where the impression comes from that there are no gangs

That is exactally what I was trying to say, thank you.

And, think of all of the "implants" into the area. Most of them are from either down state, or NJ. God only knows what they have been involved in (not all, of course, but some).

Like I stated in an earlier post, it isn't like the gang activity of the big cities, but if kids have nothing constructive to do with their time and they are "wanna be's", then it is happening in our area. Not to the same degree that it happens in bigger cities, but Norwich isn't a big city. They are causing problems none the less.

[Tyrell]

I think there are probably some gang members in the area. I don't think they are as visible or organized as they are in larger cities because they would be too noticeable. I also think that there are probably a lot of local kids who think they are affiliated, or desire to be affiliated with these gang members and that is where the impression comes from that there are no gangs

That is exactally what I was trying to say, thank you.

And, think of all of the "implants" into the area. Most of them are from either down state, or NJ. God only knows what they have been involved in (not all, of course, but some).

Like I stated in an earlier post, it isn't like the gang activity of the big cities, but if kids have nothing constructive to do with their time and they are "wanna be's", then it is happening in our area. Not to the same degree that it happens in bigger cities, but Norwich isn't a big city. They are causing problems none the less.

How many implants are there? The population in the area has gone down in the past 20 years.

[patmlaw]

Every area of the country has people moving in and others moving out.

Right here where I live, they've caught a few living in isolated mountainous areas that are on wanted lists from all over the country. One area in particular seemed to be a pretty good hiding spot.

Some feel, instead of losing yourself in a big city, head to the country where you can live without being recognized. They don't think the area police will ever figure it out.

[NEWUSER]

Look around you. The majority of new homes that have gone up in recent years belong to people who moved to the area. The students at Milford Acd. in New Berlin are certainly not locals. During the Basketball season, they are mostly inner city kids. I was born and raised in the area. My neighbors to the left (I don't have any on the right) have all moved in within the past 3 years, and all come from the city or NJ.

It's families that were born here that are leaving.